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Tank [inactive] Post Count: 0 Respect: -1

11 Oct 2010 05:52am

Quote by Hai Yushi He learned from it for sure... but he learned to late. And it takes years until he even think about a better life. I believe my point is made. It's constant work to overcome any addiction but to say people never do it is incorrect. To generalize and say they all end up alone and poor and die that way is also incorrect. Go to a GA meeting. Or any meeting for example like AA, SA, NA before you make comments like that please. Or try living with someone with an addiction.

770 [inactive] Post Count: 0 Respect: 0	11 Oct 2010 05:54am
	learned my lesson FUCK MOLEZ AND BRAD [img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LFRlGW42zDs/SlTNuN-yA4I/AAAAAAAAJOo/4H9jc403470/s320/middle_finger.gif[/img]

Thomaso [inactive] Post Count: 2 Respect: 724

11 Oct 2010 10:31am

hard work to overcome addictions? Gambling addiction? But the point of their addiction, is a quick buck...They are lazy persons. It's not hard work that will make them better, but a shrink. A shrink, that will make them cry as fucking 3 yo babies. A psychologist that will show them how egocentric, egoistic, irreponsible they were in their whole lives! A spsychologist that will fuck their whole point of view... A psychologist that will show them the right way... and with the US psychologist all you get is a therapy that lasts for years nad years- with no effect or the effect is temporary, as they didnt find "THE" problem that caused that gambling addiction. So i'm laughing at you Mal... Millions? Millions saved from gambling adiction... LOL, if it would be really working, casinos would cease to exist. And so would the lotterry etc... Because they mostly exist from the addicted people.

[C0N] Drastic [inactive] Post Count: 21 Respect: -32	11 Oct 2010 10:47am
	I also believe that raising the minimum bet from 10 to 50 points made a lot of the newer, lower level and "poorer" players play a lot less.

Thomaso [inactive] Post Count: 2 Respect: 724	11 Oct 2010 10:50am
	Quote by Drastic I also believe that raising the minimum bet from 10 to 50 points made a lot of the newer, lower level and "poorer" players play a lot less. true. And Mal, if you have experienced in your life someone with that problem ( your family friends ), then you should know. I hope my words werent to hard. Dont take it personal.

436 [inactive] Post Count: 0 Respect: -1	11 Oct 2010 12:04pm
	All of the games like MC are kinda in a downward slump. I blame the X-box

Saints [inactive] Post Count: 0 Respect: 300	11 Oct 2010 01:01pm
	I learned my lesson and even went so far as to block the gambling links

5384 [inactive] Post Count: 0 Respect: 4	11 Oct 2010 02:33pm
	i didn't block the links but it's rare that i take a bet and even rarer that i make one....so maybe i didn't completely learn my lesson, however my gambling is no more than $20-$30 at a casino in RL(once it's gone, it's gone) or on here....

Tank [inactive] Post Count: 0 Respect: -1

11 Oct 2010 04:43pm

Quote by Leito hard work to overcome addictions? Gambling addiction? But the point of their addiction, is a quick buck...They are lazy persons. It's not hard work that will make them better, but a shrink. A shrink, that will make them cry as fucking 3 yo babies. A psychologist that will show them how egocentric, egoistic, irreponsible they were in their whole lives! A spsychologist that will fuck their whole point of view... A psychologist that will show them the right way... and with the US psychologist all you get is a therapy that lasts for years nad years- with no effect or the effect is temporary, as they didnt find "THE" problem that caused that gambling addiction. So i'm laughing at you Mal... Millions? Millions saved from gambling adiction... LOL, if it would be really working, casinos would cease to exist. And so would the lotterry etc... Because they mostly exist from the addicted people. Laugh all you want but it's there. And yes millions. Collectively over years it has been millions. And it's been done without therapy. That's what GA is for. And if you think they're just lazy people and it's not hard work you're dense. Overcoming anything is hard work. Changing your way of thinking is hard work. And as for casinos being in business you do realize that people without addictions to gambling still gamble? Recreational gambling is a strong tourist business. True that addicts make up a large portion of their money but what you said would basically mean there would be no bars if there weren't alcoholics. Even though millions of people have no problem with social drinking.

[HAP] Fun Times [inactive] Post Count: 64 Respect: 779	11 Oct 2010 05:23pm
	Darwin and Hai Yushi win the arguement. Stoopid gamblers!

Thomaso [inactive] Post Count: 2 Respect: 724

12 Oct 2010 10:38am

never said that hard work is not a good path because it definetly is. But it sits in their subconcience, hidden, and covered up for all those years- they are lazy. They can have great minds, great knowledge- but they are lazy. Recreational gambling is a strong business? yes in Las Vegas. In Monaco, in Kowloon, HK and Shanghai too . However, the asiatic places shouldnt be counted, as gambling in asia is something- traditional. Well, you know Mal... the basics of every addition are: - low self esteem - lack of / very low own identity and it's a fact. Character feature determines to what kind of addictions you can have. So whether you're addicted to cigs, alcohol, gambling, LSD coffee, cold drink in the morning... whetever. You have 2 reasons why. So yeah... millions you are saying again? I'm saying it's the PR of the GA. And yeah Mal. LOL... "meetings" are form of a single/group therapy.

Tank [inactive] Post Count: 0 Respect: -1

12 Oct 2010 01:52pm

Actually addiction is caused by many different reasons but there's strong indication that most of them are due to a malfunction within the brain. Character can definitely determine your addiction but so can your genes and your environment. And GA HAS no PR. If you had bothered to look it up you'd see that because GA is an anonymous program they don't survey those with addictions. The statistical numbers are guesses at best. And the way you kept on about 'shrinks' and 'psychiatrists' it sounded more like one on one therapy to me. And GA meetings or NA or AA for that matter are not necessarily led by a doctor of any sort. They're led by peers who've dealt with the addiction themselves.

Thomaso [inactive] Post Count: 2 Respect: 724

12 Oct 2010 02:06pm

Genes are only a predisposition to addiction. low self esteem, and lack of/low own identity. Those are the 2 main causes of addictions. Ask anyone who knows something about it. Anyone. Not ppl addicted or ppl that are out of the addiction. People that in fact are helping other with addiction problems. The meetings ( doesn't matter led by who ) are a form of therapy- you want it or not, you accept it or not. looking it up? sorry- i dont know what to search for... tell me more about the abbreviation? you know: i'm not in the US or UK...

Tank [inactive] Post Count: 0 Respect: -1	12 Oct 2010 02:20pm
	GA is Gamblers Anonymous. Any anonymous meeting group usually doesn't conduct surveys. They do it that way so they can keep it anonymous so hard numbers are not easy to find for the groups.

Thomaso [inactive] Post Count: 2 Respect: 724	12 Oct 2010 02:26pm
	I'll check them in a minute. Just need to change my workplace...

Thomaso [inactive] Post Count: 2 Respect: 724	12 Oct 2010 02:48pm
	i just checked them. Their statistics arent published. You cannot say to how many did they really helped, or helped only temporarily. So your "millions" are still not convincing me.

[Γ] Waluigi [inactive] Post Count: 1 Respect: 174	12 Oct 2010 02:51pm
	People have addictive personalities... I do. I've had booze (all be it I never hit the hard stuff but i used to drink every day)... at the moment, it's vanilla velvet activia yoghurts... they are a smooth form of crack i tells ya!

Thomaso [inactive] Post Count: 2 Respect: 724	12 Oct 2010 02:54pm
	addictive personalities are coming from ( i already mentioned it 2 times )... Think why FoxBunny? why?

Tank [inactive] Post Count: 0 Respect: -1	12 Oct 2010 02:58pm
	Quote by Kosty i just checked them. Their statistics arent published. You cannot say to how many did they really helped, or helped only temporarily. So your "millions" are still not convincing me. Being that the program has been around since roughly 1957 I think it's safe to say that over time 'millions' is applicable.

Thomaso [inactive] Post Count: 2 Respect: 724

12 Oct 2010 03:06pm

millions... how many of them have been returning? If a person is returning- it's failed. Temporary. Problem not solved. How many never returned or will never return? You dont know- and so they don't. Or they know but will never put their statistics out. They are just making business off it. In a differrent way. Sorry Mal, but You see, i have something like.. experience with it. Why? RL doesnt concern you. And i can assure you that charity/freebees addictions centers arent helping people much. But yeah- go all your life or 10 -20 years to some stupid sessions, meetings, etc... This aint help. It's taking your time and money. And no, I have no addiction problems if you wanna ask. Apart of cigarettes. Which are becoming a smaller and smaller problem everyday.