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D.Angel [inactive] Post Count: 0 Respect: 0

27 Oct 2009 06:21pm

The pieces are starting to come together, showing that the Apollo mission years ago was fake, and Astronauts never even attempted to the moon. On videos taken by the astronauts, it was shown that when they placed the American flag into a crater, a gust of wind blew it and made it fly in the air. This is a bit suspicious as there is no habitat on the moon, therefore there is no wind. Also, there is footage where they made a video about walking on the moon. They made two videos, that were funnily enough filmed in the same place. When the videos were morphed together, it was shown that even the rocks were in the same place, even though NASA has said that they were filmed miles apart.

Magic fiend [inactive] Post Count: 0 Respect: 0	24 Nov 2009 12:03pm
	i think it is fake but then it semms real ?

T-Rex [inactive] Post Count: 1 Respect: 4

24 Nov 2009 08:08pm

Bad: When the astronauts are assembling the American flag, the flag waves. Kaysing says this must have been from an errant breeze on the set. A flag wouldn't wave in a vacuum. Good: Of course a flag can wave in a vacuum. In the shot of the astronaut and the flag, the astronaut is rotating the pole on which the flag is mounted, trying to get it to stay up. The flag is mounted on one side on the pole, and along the top by another pole that sticks out to the side. In a vacuum or not, when you whip around the vertical pole, the flag will ``wave'', since it is attached at the top. The top will move first, then the cloth will follow along in a wave that moves down. This isn't air that is moving the flag, it's the cloth itself. New stuff added March 1, 2001: Many HBs show a picture of an astronaut standing to one side of the flag, which still has a ripple in it (for example, see this famous image). The astronaut is not touching the flag, so how can it wave? The answer is, it isn't waving. It looks like that because of the way the flag was deployed. The flag hangs from a horizontal rod which telescopes out from the vertical one. In Apollo 11, they couldn't get the rod to extend completely, so the flag didn't get stretched fully. It has a ripple in it, like a curtain that is not fully closed. In later flights, the astronauts didn't fully deploy it on purpose because they liked the way it looked. In other words, the flag looks like it is waving because the astronauts wanted it to look that way. Ironically, they did their job too well. It appears to have fooled a lot of people into thinking it waved. This explanation comes from NASA's wonderful spaceflight web page. For those of you who are conspiracy minded, of course, this doesn't help because it comes from a NASA site. But it does explain why the flag looks as it does, and you will be hard pressed to find a video of the flag waving. And if it was a mistake caused by a breeze on the set where they faked this whole thing, don't you think the director would have tried for a second take? With all the money going to the hoax, they could afford the film!

T-Rex [inactive] Post Count: 1 Respect: 4

24 Nov 2009 08:11pm

Bad: The other ``identical background'' segment shows an astronaut on a hilltop. A second video shows two astronauts on the same hill (and this time it really is the same hill), and claims that NASA itself says these two videos were taken on two different hills separated by many kilometers. How can this be? They are obviously the same hill, so NASA must be lying! Good: Never attribute to malice what you can attribute to a mistake. A videotape about Apollo 16 ironically titled ``Nothing So Hidden...'' released by NASA does indeed make that claim, but in this case it looks to me to be a simple error. I asked Eric Jones, who is the editor of the Apollo Lunar Surface Journal, and he told me those two clips were taken about three minutes apart. Eric's assistant, Ken Glover, uncovered this problem. He sent me this transcript (which I edited a bit to make links to the video clips) of the Fox show with his comments, which I will highlight in red: Narrator: Background discrepancies are also apparent in the lunar video. [...] [Video showing John Young at Station 4 on EVA-2, with Fox caption "Day One". Click here for the transcript and here for the RealVideo clip.] Narrator: This shot was taped in what was purported to be the first of Apollo 16's lunar excursions. [Audio of John Young dubbed over clip: "Well, I couldn't pick a better spot", actual MET of 123:58:46] [Next, video of John Young and Charlie Duke at Station 4, EVA-2. In reality, about three minutes after the first clip. Fox caption "Day Two". Click here for the transcript and here for the RealVideo clip.] Narrator: And this video was from the next day, at a different location. [Audio of Charlie Duke dubbed over clip: "That is the most beautiful sight!", actual MET of 124:03:01] Narrator: NASA claims the second location was two-and-a-half miles away, but when one video was superimposed over the other the locations appear identical. [Audio of John Young dubbed over "Day Two" video: " It's absolutely unreal!", actual MET 144:16:30] Narrator: Conspiracy theorists claim that even closer examination of the photos suggest evidence of doctoring. That last line is pretty funny. The audio you hear of the astronauts in those clips was actually all from different times than the video! So that's why the hill looks the same. It's the same hill, and the two clips were not taken a day apart, but from three minutes apart or so. Again, had the program producers bothered to check their sources, they would have received a prompt answer. That's all I did: I emailed the editor of the ALSJ. It was pretty easy to do, and he answered me in minutes.

DeathRider [inactive] Post Count: 0 Respect: 49	25 Nov 2009 01:06am
	We send shuttles and satellites up into the air everyday. Its not hard to believe.